So I'm going out to vegas in two months, and the first thing me and my friend are going to do when we get to the Paris casino (where we are staying) is each put $100 (so $200 total) into a Double Diamond machine...what would you guys do, play 2 credits on the $1 machine, or 1 credit on the $5 machine? Keep in mind that on Double Diamond machines there is no extra payoff for betting max credits.....Right now, I'm leaning towards putting the $200 into the $5 machine and taking my chances that we hit something with a double diamond on it! What do you think? Any opinions?
Feb 03, 2011 Las Vegas discussion forum - $1 or $5 Double Diamond, page 1. So I'm going out to vegas in two months, and the first thing me and my friend are going to do when we get to the Paris casino (where we are staying) is each put $100 (so $200 total) into a Double Diamond machine.what would you guys do, play 2 credits on the $1 machine, or 1 credit on the $5 machine? As an aside, the most common odds-for-1 payoffs are in video poker. If the pay table says a five coin bet brings you five coins on a pair of Jacks, then that high pair just gets your money back. When a royal flush pays 4,000, you just get the 4,000. You don’t get your money back, too.
It's just my opinion, but I'd take the $200 and run it through the $1 machine with a single bet - by getting 200 spins instead of 40, you'd get a few more chances to have a crack at the $800 jackpot. Of course, if it's the gamble and payoff your looking for, 40 spins for a chance at 4,000 isn't terrible either. It's called gambling for a reason...
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So I'm going out to vegas in two months, and the first thing me and my friend are going to do when we get to the Paris casino (where we are staying) is each put $100 (so $200 total) into a Double Diamond machine...what would you guys do, play 2 credits on the $1 machine, or 1 credit on the $5 machine? Keep in mind that on Double Diamond machines there is no extra payoff for betting max credits.....Right now, I'm leaning towards putting the $200 into the $5 machine and taking my chances that we hit something with a double diamond on it! What do you think? Any opinions?
The $5 is probably set to pay off at a higher rate, though for so comparatively few spins it won't matter much. Go for the $5 anyways. Why not be a higher roller.
So I'm going out to vegas in two months, and the first thing me and my friend are going to do when we get to the Paris casino (where we are staying) is each put $100 (so $200 total) into a Double Diamond machine...what would you guys do, play 2 credits on the $1 machine, or 1 credit on the $5 machine? Keep in mind that on Double Diamond machines there is no extra payoff for betting max credits.....Right now, I'm leaning towards putting the $200 into the $5 machine and taking my chances that we hit something with a double diamond on it! What do you think? Any opinions?
I don't know how much this matters to you, but with only 1 credit bet at $1 denomination, you can't hit a taxable jackpot--otherwise, you could. It's actually a major bummer to have to declare a big jackpot on your federal taxes and probably have to pay taxes on it. So I'd play 200 1-credit spins. That also has the benefit of giving you the most fun for your money.
Then again, maybe not.
It might bring you better comp value to play it on the $5 machine.
Then again, maybe not.
I think the actual comp rate would be based on the handle only, and it's the same in either case. But if a host were looking at discretionary comps, I would think that the $5 play would stand out in a helpful way. I think that's what it comes down to: whether any extra discretionary comps would outweigh the potential pain in the ass of dealing with w2gs - especially if the winnings are split 2 ways and only 1 person is filing the taxes.
I think the actual comp rate would be based on the handle only, and it's the same in either case. But if a host were looking at discretionary comps, I would think that the $5 play would stand out in a helpful way. I think that's what it comes down to: whether any extra discretionary comps would outweigh the potential pain in the ass of dealing with w2gs - especially if the winnings are split 2 ways and only 1 person is filing the taxes.
You might actually get less comps for the $5 machine action if the theo is lower (the machine pays better). The primary determinant of your rating will be coin-in, though. But that's kind of irrelevant--Paris is a Harrah's property, which means that amount of action will get you half a cup of comped coffee.
BTW the Brunch buffet @ PLV is the best. I never miss it.
I don't know how much this matters to you, but with only 1 credit bet at $1 denomination, you can't hit a taxable jackpot--otherwise, you could. It's actually a major bummer to have to declare a big jackpot on your federal taxes and probably have to pay taxes on it. So I'd play 200 1-credit spins. That also has the benefit of giving you the most fun for your money.
Aren't winnings offset-able by losses up to the amount of the declared winnings? If you have a club card (at least for M and for Harrah's but I don't know about other companies), you can get a gross losses statement. It's a bummer because, in the moment, you lose the whatever percent, but at the end of the year, you can get it back (for smaller jackpots, anyways).
Not being a slots guy, I don't have much experience with taxable jackpots, but on all 3 occasions where I've won one, I've always been able to deduct losses up to the amounts. One year, though, I had to use gross losses rather than net.
Also, as far as earning comps, isn't it the total play you give rather than the initial buy-in that earns the comps? In that case, you'd want the machine with the higher payout (as if you wouldn't anyways) so, if you're wanting to play the original buy-in to either jackpot or zero, you'd want the denomination that pays out the best.
I know that varies, but wasn't there another thread that calculated $1 as a better payout than $5?
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The problem I'm having a hard time with, is that the popular big dollar progressives have a variety of games you can play. As an example, let's use Wheel of Fortune. You can play WOF on a mix of games within a casino. I've seen them as Double Diamond, Triple Diamond, Five Times Pay, Ten Times Pay, Red White and Blue, etc.
Obviously, these individual games all have differing odds and/or hit frequencies. Therefore, how are players given an equal chance at 'hitting the big one' even though they are playing games that have a wide variance in odds and hit frequency?
IGT answer: Yes, each individual game has its own Random Number Generator, which independently determines the game outcome. For the Wheel of Fortune dollar games, each game on the wide area progressive link has equal odds of winning the top award.
I play slots and like the 5x and 10x payout types the most even though the percentage payout is less. When you do hit with one of the multiples occasionally, it really counts. Could you tell me which is more advantageous to play:Dollar slot-2 coins-5x machine 50 cent-2 coins-10x machine Certainly enjoy your columns and good advice!
My wife and I visit casinos about 6-8 times a year. I noticed many of the slots are now multi-denomination, 25, 50 and 1.00. My question is, typically a 25-cent machine will have a lower payout percentage than $1.00 machines. Yet in a single machine with all three denominations available is the little brain inside making that distinguishing change when you play up?
If not then are you getting a better break at 25 cents play (that would be a first) or getting hurt by playing dollars? Could this be just another gimmick for the casinos to lower overall payout like with the 5 cent ($ 2.25 +) multi line/bonus machines?
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If average, then tip only, if permitted. I would contact the hotel to find out if their slots hosts can accept tips (some do not permit).
For best service, call your slot host ahead of time and let them know what your preferences are--customize your visit. Are you looking for spa benefits, specific dining, room preferences, etc?
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Slots can be a good bet. There's no denying it is the most popular game and the least intimidating at casinos online and off. Let's make a comparison to table games. To quote, your top payout of 94.7% for slots and round up to 95%, the casino pc, or house advantage would be 5%. Certain bets for craps, double zero roulette, baccarat and yes, even playing without strategy in blackjack can earn the casino more than 5% of your gambling bankroll.
In addition, there's the 'grind' of playing these games.
As I state in my EBooks, slots is a good bet if you play 'full-pay' video poker, at a bank of 'guaranteed payback' slot machines, a locals’ Vegas casino, any casino with more than 3 competitors close by, dollar+ slots, certain slot versions as with single payline basic slots and online casinos that are audited and report payouts.